tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post2611434225985995187..comments2024-03-19T13:06:50.223+08:00Comments on Tat-a-Renda: Am I being selfish?Tat-a-Rendahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15457269449603084653noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-6661550395311402762014-04-12T13:11:41.625+08:002014-04-12T13:11:41.625+08:00I agree. i myself browse through patterns for idea...I agree. i myself browse through patterns for ideas and although i can copy a pattern from a picture i still make enough changes to make it a new pattern. posting pics should give people inspiration to make their own. just like playing guitar. playing a song like it was written is boring change it make it yours. but don't take someone else's hard work for granted. i love your patterns Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06450744291882611961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-46410959401673649752010-11-24T17:34:55.805+08:002010-11-24T17:34:55.805+08:00No you're not selfish at all, you are very, ve...No you're not selfish at all, you are very, very generous making those patterns available for the community. I have done a few of your designs lately and of course you'll be credited as the designer.<br />It is a sad thing that have happened to you, I hope someday there will be patterns available again but so far I will say a big thank you for those you've shared with the rest of us.Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13828409773716257127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-84616695661496749832010-11-24T10:38:40.327+08:002010-11-24T10:38:40.327+08:00Once your design is copied and credit was not give...Once your design is copied and credit was not given to you is what that hurt ones most. I had learned my lesson too. Nowadays, I resize my pictures before posting it in my blog. At times, I just don't post them up at all but only share among my close friends and family. I read your blog too and you are very talented. To keep your own designs is not an act of selfishness but is your Sumire Craft - すみれ手芸https://www.blogger.com/profile/10993518018784115376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-68195808211139486692010-11-24T10:25:07.247+08:002010-11-24T10:25:07.247+08:00Thank you for all the responses to this post. I ap...Thank you for all the responses to this post. I appreciate each one. I don't think that I can reply to each one of them. Thank you for understanding <br /><br />I guess I am still not wise to the world of the internet, but I agree that there are risks. I always try to be a bit open to the tatting community because this is my way of making sure tatting keeps going, on and on forever.<br /><Tat-a-Rendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15457269449603084653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-53542840349481820332010-11-24T07:22:24.079+08:002010-11-24T07:22:24.079+08:00It's not at all selfish, but it is a massive s...It's not at all selfish, but it is a massive shame. As someone who's bought two of your pattern books, I can see just how much work you put into your designs. To be made to feel like this is frustrating, and very wrong.<br /><br />I took your tatted snowflakes book on holiday with me recently, and I absolutely loved the patterns. The range of techniques, and the clever designs - of courseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-48102857910446034012010-11-24T06:04:35.804+08:002010-11-24T06:04:35.804+08:00Jon, this is one of the things that upsets me the ...Jon, this is one of the things that upsets me the most in the tatting community. While I do not think that published patterns have the severe copyright restrictions some people like to claim they do, UNPUBLISHED designs absolutely have every copyright protection because they are an original work of art and should not be copied or made unless and until the designer makes the pattern available. Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05541621843343282192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-56924000814527748612010-11-24T01:23:16.503+08:002010-11-24T01:23:16.503+08:00Jon,
I understand exactly how you feel, even thou...Jon,<br /><br />I understand exactly how you feel, even though I am not a designer. However, I have to say that sometimes it is when I look at an item is when I get an idea of what I could have done with a design. Since I don't design or sell anything, if at all I try something from another person's design, I never publish it as my own. Talented folks like you are the ones that inspireSunelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07309123727218351365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-24351562268722655902010-11-24T00:52:58.781+08:002010-11-24T00:52:58.781+08:00I just wrote a similarly minded post and Jane link...I just wrote a similarly minded post and Jane linked me to yours. I understand your feelings & I hope this is just a passing trend and we can all share freely again soon.TotusMelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17661819229938323908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-51808566237205845552010-11-23T11:52:37.331+08:002010-11-23T11:52:37.331+08:00Hello Jon,
What a sad thing to happen to you. You...Hello Jon,<br /><br />What a sad thing to happen to you. You are not being selfish.<br /><br />My parents are lecturers, and they've told many stories about the underhanded things their students and colleagues do. However, they've always told me that teaching is 'ibadah', something with spiritual value.<br /><br />I hope it is the same for you. Your teaching is of great value. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18390600446418849575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-1602302064607731392010-11-23T03:11:15.219+08:002010-11-23T03:11:15.219+08:00At my age, nothing people do or say surprises me a...At my age, nothing people do or say surprises me any longer. Don't confuse "selfish" with "common sense". Since there are copy-thieves out there; don't give them something to copy. Makes sense to me; I have enough trouble following intricate patterns ~ tatting from a photo is totally beyond my talent.<br />This happens in photography, fiber arts (like Solaan's Ridgewomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13268684588250261751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-10676190420577223662010-11-23T02:10:03.656+08:002010-11-23T02:10:03.656+08:00the only suggestion I might make is for some of yo...the only suggestion I might make is for some of your images you want kept special, you can put on a diff blog and make it approved viewers only, friends you accept only, then you can kick out anyone using patterns without permission? that might be a way to show your beautiful work to friends without sharing with unwanted eyes...Bree at "Bree's Way"https://www.blogger.com/profile/06642384252762502404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-74442816589082153002010-11-23T02:00:57.771+08:002010-11-23T02:00:57.771+08:00Jon,
I agree with you and everyone else who has p...Jon,<br /><br />I agree with you and everyone else who has posted above. <br /><br />You are not the selfish one.. those who make tatting from your designs and do not acknowledge or give credit to the designer are the selfish one!<br /><br />Hopefully, someday we will all see your beautiful designs and creations in a book of patterns! I would get it myself for I like your patterns. They have beenKarrieannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12509454709489592186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-42642285163387769972010-11-23T00:43:17.981+08:002010-11-23T00:43:17.981+08:00That's just how some people are. I remember re...That's just how some people are. I remember reading a review of Mary Konior's Visual Tatting book on a used book site and many people were complaining how they didn't like all the diagrams because they couldn't copy them easily to share with others. If you do share photos, make them fairly small. That way we can see what you're working on, but it may be difficult to count the Jeff Hamiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13521350068442897265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-66982004634053880172010-11-23T00:31:33.379+08:002010-11-23T00:31:33.379+08:00You are not a selfish person, you have given the t...You are not a selfish person, you have given the tatting world free patterns, tutorials and lovely books. I hope you will still be blogging.<br />Best wishes<br />JosieJosie Passellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435062617109029720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-66587035844174998062010-11-22T23:55:02.717+08:002010-11-22T23:55:02.717+08:00You have every right to be disappointed. Your desi...You have every right to be disappointed. Your designs are yours, and no one should be copying them without your permission. Some people seem to think that if there's not a copyright symbol on it, it's free for the taking. It might help to add the copyright symbol to your pictures. Of course, there will always be people who just don't care, but having the symbol there might at least Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07966487848401662776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-22476085588454783352010-11-22T23:35:15.279+08:002010-11-22T23:35:15.279+08:00I love seeing your finished pieces and I am sorry ...I love seeing your finished pieces and I am sorry that people have disappointed you. Some ways to continue sharing and reduce copying would be to use a lower resolution pictures or share just a piece of the work and not the whole thing. Best Wishes! I would love for you to continue sharing, I am not a tatter but my grandmother was and I admire your talent.natalysneedlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780177511621540630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-20581382697749347662010-11-22T23:08:03.161+08:002010-11-22T23:08:03.161+08:00I totally understand - it takes a lot of effort to...I totally understand - it takes a lot of effort to get a pattern right and not to get credit (or payment) is insulting.Crazy Mom!https://www.blogger.com/profile/00550918194758228198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-56285122943467776092010-11-22T21:12:35.349+08:002010-11-22T21:12:35.349+08:00Hi Jon,
So sorry to hear that! :-(Hi Jon,<br /><br />So sorry to hear that! :-(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-82433407444827145082010-11-22T20:12:47.731+08:002010-11-22T20:12:47.731+08:00I am sad people can't respect copy right laws ...I am sad people can't respect copy right laws and acknowledge the true designer of the work. I am truly sad you will not be sharing as much as you have. I enjoy your work and draw from your patterns regularly. But I understand why, you put the work into it and someone else takes credit for your work.That is just not fair.TAT19540https://www.blogger.com/profile/14911173875720001335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-72816230790218805342010-11-22T19:37:18.596+08:002010-11-22T19:37:18.596+08:00I am sorry, Jon, your patterns are the best! You ...I am sorry, Jon, your patterns are the best! You are a very talented tatter, so I can only imagine how this must hurt you.<br /><br />Please know that I appreciate all that you do for me, not only the great patterns you have gifted me, but the patterns I have purchased. Also I can't thank you enough for your "how to" blog posts, which I am sure were alot of work. I refer back to Bonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11764499482389555340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-5526598330764090352010-11-22T19:29:58.242+08:002010-11-22T19:29:58.242+08:00No, Jon, you are not being selfish. You are one of...No, Jon, you are not being selfish. You are one of the most generous people in the tatting world. It's sad to read that there are people possibly taking advantage of your generosity. I say, save your designs for more books. I'll buy them!Lace-lovin' Librarian ~ Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06032689683092213368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-18849091730636357552010-11-22T17:10:59.532+08:002010-11-22T17:10:59.532+08:00I don't think you are being selfish at all. Th...I don't think you are being selfish at all. The whole issue of what can or can't be copied is a difficult one, but if you have designed something and then someone takes that design and passes it off as their own, or doesn't give you credit then you are right to stop doing it. I totally sympathise.Katherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535283952234877878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-36160174942080377662010-11-22T16:11:06.122+08:002010-11-22T16:11:06.122+08:00Jon! I dont think that you are being selfish, if ...Jon! I dont think that you are being selfish, if these people had done the right thing in the first place this would not have happened! I know that I could never do that to someone who took the time to share a pattern!Typstattinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12271407293785706668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-85534307730583219752010-11-22T14:02:32.069+08:002010-11-22T14:02:32.069+08:00Here you are wanting to share your work and there&...Here you are wanting to share your work and there's someone waiting too 'steal' it. Quite sickening really and I can understand your disappointment. <br /><br />But I wonder how do we go forward when there will always be unscrupulous people around?Barbara Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07753143340104041588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33190757.post-49201864945761726022010-11-22T13:50:44.169+08:002010-11-22T13:50:44.169+08:00I am sad and disappointed also :( it is great tha...I am sad and disappointed also :( it is great that someone likes your patterns enough to want to make them, but people should say that it is your pattern they are making or copying etc. I have taken your patterns or someone elses and done just that, done the pattern similar from just seeing it, any good tatter can , and there are only so many twists, turns and rings for smaller motifs, but Bree at "Bree's Way"https://www.blogger.com/profile/06642384252762502404noreply@blogger.com